*** Forrest Fenn Notes ***

One thing I noticed is that even though there are very good “cheat sheets” out there that lists the “clues” and comments Forrest makes (eg. Dal or Jenny’s blog) there still are people posting comments….”When did Forrest say this?” or “Where did Forrest say that.”  So I’ve taken it upon myself to make the “one stop shop” of all of Forrest’s important clues and comments. As well as, adding significant references of when and where he said them.  Enjoy  🙂

Little Known Facts:

    • No Waterfalls – “You guys seem to be hung up on waterfalls. Don’t try to change my poem to fit your ideas.” (Dal’s Blog – Forrest Gets Mail from a Middle School Class – February 8, 2017) Update: Also see my email from Forrest.
    • Not under water – (Dal’s Blog- June 29, 2017)
    • Not “near the Rio Grande River” – (Dal’s Blog – June 29, 2017)
    • Not in the desert – (“If your solve is in the desert, get a new solve” – Mysterious Writing – June 16, 2017)
    • Not in a mine – (“The treasure is not hidden in a mine. A lotta these old mines are dangerous. I mean, they have snakes in ’em, they have black widow spiders!” – CBS New Sunday Morning / July 12th, 2015)
      • “The treasure is not in a tunnel someplace” – (Outside: Live Bravely – August 11, 2015)
    • Where warm waters halt is not a dam (“WWWH is not related to any dam”Dal’s blog, Scrapbook 68 / May 16, 2014)
    • More than 8.25 miles north of Santa Fe – (“more than 66,000 links north of Santa Fe” – Richard Shaunier’s blog Mountain Walk, Article Forrest Fenn: Land Surveyor / April 17, 2012)
    • Not on a mountain top, maybe close – (“It’s not on a top of any mountain…..it may be close to the top” – (Collected Works Bookstore Signing / October 22, 2013)
    • Not hidden in Idaho or Utah”  (Today Show / June 28, 2013)
    • Not in Canada – (Moby Dickens Book Shop Signing / November 2, 2013)
    • “not in a graveyard” (Today Show / May 3, 2013)
    • Located above 5,000 ft and below 10,200 ft  (“higher than 5000 feet” – Today Show / March 1, 2013)  (“hidden below 10,200 feet” – True West magazine / Decemeber 2013 issue)
    • Hidden “in the mountains somewhere north of Santa Fe”    (The Thrill of the Chase p. 151)
    • As of May 8, 2017: The Thrill of the Chase has sold (about) 22,000 copies. Too Far To Walk has sold 1,500-1,800 copies.

Fenn’s Fundamental Guidelines (from Dal’s Blog – February 5, 2016)

  • Don’t search anywhere an 80 year old man could not carry a heavy backpack.
  • The treasure is hidden more than 8.25 miles north of the northern limits of Santa Fe, NM.
  • The treasure is definitely in the Rocky Mountains

Weekly Advise From Fenn (from MysteriousWritings.com)

  • You don’t need to break anything to find the treasure. (7-7-2017)
  • I was 80 or about when I hid the treasure and it was not a difficult task. You don’t have to move big rocks or scale a precipice to get the treasure. Stay away from dangerous terrain. Much of the Rio Grande River is not in the Rocky Mountains. (6-16-2017)
  • I did follow the clues in the poem when I hid the treasure chest (6-5-2017)
  • If you knew the geographic location of each clue it would be a map to the treasure (4-5-2017)
  • If you think I could not have put it there, you are probably right (9-9-2016)
  • Don’t force the poem to fit your spot. (8-20-2016)
  • Chest weights 42 pounds plus, best to have gloves     (3-11-2016)
  • After reading (Dal’s Blog) I am prompted to ask, have you considered the what ifs   (3-4-2016)
  • Your destination is small, but its location is huge        (2-19-2016)
  • Don’t let logic distract you from the poem       (2-12-2016)
  • A good solve is frequently lost in a poor execution      (1-15-2016)
  • Complacency is the misuse of imagination        (12-19-2015)
  • If you know precisely where it is you can probably retrieve it in any weather                                                                           (12-11-2015)
  • Shut your engine off until spring                               (12-04-2015)
  • You will ignore the poem at your own peril        (11-27-2015)

Other things Forrest has said:

    • What is a Blaze? “Anything that stands out.” (Dal’s Blog – Forrest Gets Mail from a Middle School Class – February 8, 2017)
    • The poem’s punctuation has no meaning towards the solution – (hintofriches.com – Fenn Clarifies Punctuation – August 14, 2018)
    • “The treasure chest is not under water, nor is it near the Rio Grande River. It is not necessary to move large rocks or climb up or down a steep precipice,” he writes. “Please remember that I was about 80 when I made two trips from my vehicle to where I hid the treasure.” – (CNBC – April 17, 2018)
    • “It helps to know something about Rocky Mountain geography when making plans to search for my treasure. Rocking chair ideas can lead one to the first few clues, but a physical presence is needed to complete the solve. Google Earth cannot help with the last clue.” – (MysteriousWritings Blog – Six Questions / February 4, 2008)
    • “Not under a man-made object” – (Dal’s Blog – June 29, 2017)
    • “The last time I was up there was 1950.” (Yellowstone or West Yellowstone) (Isaac Cole’s Podcast / On the Road With Charlie / May 8, 2017)
    • “It’s hidden in a pretty good place. It’s difficult to find, but certainty isn’t impossible.” (Isaac Cole’s Podcast / On the Road With Charlie / May 8, 2017)
    • “That poem was really written by an architect. Every word was placed in there strategically, and you can’t ignore any of the nouns.” (Isaac Cole’s Podcast / On the Road With Charlie / May 8, 2017)
    • Those who solve the first clue are more than half way to the treasure…” (Dal’s Site / SB 167 / February 25, 2017)
    • I hid the treasure in a place that is not especially difficult to reach.” (Westword – Forrest Fenn on Death of Randy Bilyeu / August 11, 2016)
    • Physics tells me the treasure is wet.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Featured Question: Wet Physics / July 29, 2016)
    • “The solve is difficult for many searchers because their minds think the clues are tougher to decrypt than they really are. Until now I have resisted telling [searchers] to get back in the box where their thoughts are comfortable and flow more easily. The blueprint is challenging so the treasure may be located by the one who can adjust.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Featured Question: Get Back in the Box / July 1, 2016)
    • I wish I had another treasure to hide in the Appalachians. The little girl in India cannot get closer than the first two clues.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Six Questions with Forrest Fenn: Over Five Years of The Thrill of the Chase/ February 4, 2016)
      • In response to being asked: “Can a little girl in India, who speaks good English, only has your poem and a map of the US Rocky Mountains, work out where the treasure is?”
    • Until someone finds  the treasure they will not know for sure that they have discovered the first clue.” (Dal’s Blog – “Forrest Gets Mail – 9 / November 2, 2015)
    • “The problem searchers make is that they don’t dwell long enough on the first clue. If you can’t find the first clue you don’t have anything. People driving down the street looking for a blaze, because THAT’S ONE OF THE CLUES, but you can’t start in the middle of the poem and find the treasure.” (Outside: Live Bravely – August 11, 2015)
    • “Brown trout have nothing to do with home of Brown” (ChaseChat – Quoting an email from Fenn – July 11, 2015) (Update: I have confirmed this with Fenn myself)
    • “If I was standing where the treasure chest is, I see trees, I see mountains, I see animals, I’ll smell wonderful smells of pine needles or pinon nuts, sage brush. And I know the treasure chest is wet.” – (New Mexico True Story – February 4, 2015)
      •  Forrest responded the next day saying“I just watched that New Mexico Tourism video again and must say that I didn’t say what I was thinking. You cannot smell a pinon nut, but those who pick them know that in doing so you get pine pitch all over your hands, and pine pitch smells about the same no matter what kind of pine tree you are talking about. Looking back I think I wanted to say I could smell pine needles, not pinon nuts. Sorry I kicked a hornet’s nest with that comment.” – (Dal’s Blog – Forrest LIVE on HuffPost.. / February 5, 2015)
      • Another response“That video didn’t have any clues.” “Fenn said if the treasure were in the wilderness, of course it would be wet….he erred in mentioning pinon nuts. He really meant pine needles” – (The New Mexican – February 8, 2015)
    • “What surprises me a little is that nobody to my uncertain knowledge has analyzed one important possibility related to the winning solve.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Six Questions Yet Again with Forrest Fenn: Always a Treasure! / February 4, 2015)
      • …suggested that searchers consider the what ifs.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Featured Question – The What Ifs – March 24, 2016)
    • “I will say that I walked less than a few miles (whole trip of hiding the chest and treasure) if that will help. I just looked “few” up and one definition is “scant.” Why do I sound like I’m talking in circles” – (MysteriousWritings Blog – Talking in Circles/ October 13, 2014)
    • “While it’s not impossible to remove the blaze it isn’t feasible to try, and I am certain it’s still there” (Dal’s Blog – The Nine Clues…Part Thirtyone / September 26, 2014)
    • The CE5 phrase on the treasure chest is of no value to searchers” (Dal’s Blog – The Nine Clues…Part Thirtyone / September 26, 2014)
    • “There are many places in the Rocky Mountains where warm waters halt, and nearly all of them are north of Santa Fe. Look at the big picture, there are no short cuts.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Featured Questions: Warm Waters and Geography / August 12, 2014)
    • The spot where I hid the treasure was in my mind from the time I first started thinking about the chase. It is special to me and there was never another consideration. I was going to make it work no matter what.  In my reverie I often find myself stealing away to that place and I will always consider it to be mine.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Questions with Forrest / July 5, 2014)
    • When I am in the moutains or in the desert, the last place I want to be is on a trail…..There isn’t a human trail in very close proximaty to where I hid the treasure” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Questions with Forrest / June 28, 2014)
    • No specialized knowledge is required…..My Thrill of the Chase book is enough to lead an average person to the treasure” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Questions with Forrest / June 27, 2014)
    • The clues did not exist when I was a kid but of most of the places the clues refer to did. I think they might still exist in 100 years.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Questions with Forrest / June 25, 2014)
    • Many are giving serious thought to the clues in my poem, but only a few are in tight focus with a word that is key.” (MysteriousWritings Blog – Questions with Forrest / February 4, 2014)
    • When I hid it and was walking back to my car, I started laughing out loud and I said ‘Forrest Fenn…did you really do that?’” – (Moby Dickens Book Shop Signing / November 2, 2013)
    • There are several people that have deciphered the first two clues. I don’t think they knew it, because they walked right on past the treasure chest.”– (Moby Dickens Book Shop Signing / November 2, 2013)
    • I think kids have an advantage (finding the treasure). Don’t ask me to explain that.” – (Moby Dickens Book Shop Signing / November 2, 2013)
    • “…that’s why I told people I hid the treasure chest when I was 79 or 80 years old because I don’t want the exact date to be known because I’m afraid somebody will go check the rental car records and how many miles did Mr. Fenn put on the truck or the car…so I don’t answer those kinda questions…but shoot that person that sent in that email…” – (Moby Dickens Book Shop Signing / November 2, 2013)
    • “I have not had anybody tell me the answer to that clue (the unintended one in TFTW). If you read my preface it doesn’t take a genius to figure out, I think, what they’re talking about but…there are clues in my new book that can help a person.” – – (Moby Dickens Book Shop Signing / November 2, 2013)
    • “I’ve said before the treasure chest is heavy. And it…I made two trips to hide it where I wanted it to be.” – (Collected Works Bookstore Signing / October 22, 2013)
    • “What is wrong with me just riding my bike out there and throwing it in the ‘water high’ when I am through with it?” – (Dal’s Blog – “Forrest Gets Mail… / October 3, 2012)
    • “No need to look for the treasure in a place where a 79 or 80 year old man couldn’t go with a 44 pound treasure chest full of gold and precious gems.”  – (Dal’s Blog – “Forrest Gets Mail… / October 3, 2012)
    • “My church is in the mountains and along the river bottoms where dreams and fantasies alike go to play” (The Thrill of the Chase – page 4

35 thoughts on “*** Forrest Fenn Notes ***”

      1. Hi Erica: first time to your site. I probably have a couple dozen quotes you’re missing that you might be interested in adding to your growing list above. Here are a few:

        “Mr. Fenn, is there any level of knowledge of US history that is required to properly interpret the clues in your poem?” ~Steve R

        “No Steve R. The only requirement is that you figure out what the clues mean. But a comprehensive knowledge of geography might help.ff”

        – – – –

        “The most common mistake that I see searchers make is that they underestimate the importance of the first clue. If you don’t have that one nailed down you might as well stay home and play Canasta.”

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        “Although many have tried, I doubt that anyone will find the blaze before they have figured out the first clue.”

        – – – –

        From Mysterious Writings Featured Question with Forrest: “Forrest, you have stated that several searchers correctly identified the first two clues in your poem. Could you tell us how many searchers to your knowledge have correctly identified the first clue correctly? Thanks. ~49 Dollars.”

        “No 49, I cannot tell you how many searchers have identified the first clue correctly, but certainly more than several. I cannot imagine anyone finding the treasure without first identifying the starting point, although many seem to be preoccupied with later clues. To me that’s just expensive folly. f”

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  1. How can I receive a password to be able to copy Forrest Fenn notes that are protected to help me in my quest to find the treasure chest. Any help would be appreciated.

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  2. I just heard the book signings video where he said she’d faint. Actually you wrote it wrong and it sounds like the way you wrote it that he is referring to the person who was near the treasure as being a woman. That’s not how he said it. The woman in the audience was the one he was referring to as being the one to faint if he told her the answer to the question he asked. You should go back and listen to it. It’s completely not what you mentioned.

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    1. This is still open for interpretation and different people hear different things. There’s no telling what his meaning was behind those words as he hasn’t addressed it.

      But because of this, I went ahead and deleted that part of the quote.

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  3. You know what, we saw two different videos (two signings) on you tube and yours and mine is right, he said it two different ways..lol.. funny

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  4. Erica Jorre, your late husband, Charles was his name, right, seems to have been well versed in the search and solve of ff’s poem, did he post on Dal’s blog? After viewing his notes and studies, it is obvious he was a very intelligent man, his methods were are a lot like what myself and many other dedicated treasure hunters are using and updating with recently discovered bits and pieces of knowledge.

    Even if you and the kids and grandkids never find the TC, even if someone else finds it using some info from your blog, you can be assured that your deceased husband’s there in spirit, I just wanta say THANKS and remember ” “We are all here for the pleasure of others. … “They never knew that it was the chase they sought and not the quarry”.

    Tom Terrific

    PS its just my name, not an arrogant statement, but I must say Terrific sounds a lot better than Tom Enthusiastic (treasure hunter)!

    I will soon do my 30th hunt, and thanks to info you are presenting I am heading a little further NORTH!

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    1. My memory and recollection is: TC IS BETWEEN 5,000′ and 10,200′ AND IS NEAR A MOUNTAINTOP. Pretty dimunitive mountain in terms of an average Rocky Mountain. This fact may be the Achilles Heel for finding Indulgence that and smelling the pinons…just saying….Tom Terrific

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      1. Hi Tom — first time visiting this blog. Forrest has never outright said that the treasure chest is near a mountain top. He *has* said it is NOT on top of a mountain. On that occasion, shortly thereafter, he added, “It may be ~near~ the top” which is likely what you’re referring to. I would not assume the two “tops” are necessarily the same.

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  5. I’ve doubled checked the source. I can’t seem to find it recently myself online, but if you do a quick search for below 10,200 ft every one agrees it came from that issue.

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  6. Hi Erica! Came across this as a bookmark in my files and thought I would check out what people were saying a couple of years back, and right after my first trek out. I see “Zap” has added a couple of newer items, to help.

    I am with you on there are so many places to gather the information. IMO – anyone and everyone can find the information, if they do a quick Google search or the like.

    I know, I know…..how do I know it is true, if it is on the internet? LOL

    We don’t, huh? LOL

    There is an abundance of “fake news” out here, so I really think each individual will have to make their own interpretation of the many quotes.

    You are definitely helping sort out the inaccuracies. Thanks for the help!

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  7. I’ve searched and searched and can’t find any article or interview that Forrest Finn himself has said that the treasure is below 10200 ft. I’ve started doing my own research not taking the word of other sites or blogs as fact. Can u send me the article you mentioned that FF says it’s under 10200 ft? Thanks

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    1. Try True West magazine the Decemeber 2013 issue. There use to be an article online quoting this. Now it looks like you may just have to buy the article in order to get confirmation, but it’s in there.

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      1. yeah, Forrest has stated- below 10,000 ft. and above 5,000 ft. in elevation….and guess what? the Draper museum starts at the 10,000 ft level also know as alpine. and ends at the 4,500 ft. level known as meadow.
        hello!

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  8. i agree zap, Forrest was clever enough to use the Byrd Naturalist cabin at the Draper museum for the home of Brown. thats why brown is capitalized to denote proper name…Byrd, not Brown.

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    1. Hi Bob: I’m pretty confident I know what HoB is. It’s 100% natural, and I also think it’s the least important clue in the poem.

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      1. well zap, dont tell me where your home of brown is otherwise i would “go right to it” as Forrest stated, the treasure that is.
        Now, from my home of brown the Byrd Naturalist cabin, the searcher goes right to the chest which is not 100 feet away from the cabin. although in elevation the decent is about 5,000 feet…. in a museum you understand.
        also, im not talking about the bronze box mind you, but the chest of the poem. that same searcher then takes (a photo) of the chest and goes in peace.
        this is why children have the advantage.
        because treasure and chest are not the same thing in FF’s world.
        i think.

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  9. Bob: I’m well familiar with Forrest’s 2013 reply to Jennifer London, and in my opinion it was sarcastic, not serious.

    So let me ask you: how is your candidate Byrd Naturalist cabin as “home of Brown” any different in kind from Cynthia Meachum’s CCC cabin — which Forrest admonished her about (as a home of Brown), saying “Don’t you remember? I said it can’t be associated with a structure.” In my opinion, Forrest has ruled out structures for both the treasure chest’s location AND home of Brown. (And I personally don’t think any of the clues involve manmade structures.)

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    1. zap- im not here to argue. im presenting what i have learned over the last 6 years from boots on the ground searches in all four search states which caused me to realize that everywhere ive been outdoors could possibly be the end of forrest’s rainbow and the treasure. which, in fact forrest said in his book TTOTC, that is precisely where the poem would lead.
      BUT, the poem clearly says to TAKE THE CHEST and go in peace.
      the chest of the poem is not the end of his rainbow nor the treasure. the chest mentioned in the poem is something else in my opinion. and to TAKE the chest means a photo. remember to pay attention to the precision of his words as mr. Dal Neitzel himself warns on the homepage of his blog under the paragraph entitled “more caution”.
      so lets pay attention to the precision of forrest’s words in his reply to Cynthia…
      …”it cant be associated with a structure”

      forrest used the word “it”
      he didnt say home of brown
      he didnt say chest
      he didnt say treasure
      so by forrest using the word “it” as he does on many occasions, leaves the interpretation open to the reader. and by speaking in this manner forrest’s chest will remain hidden for a long time. im the only person who can show the chest of the poem to you zap. care to meet me in cody, wy. someday?

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  10. Well, Bob, I don’t know what to tell you. You evidently think the chest is something distinct from the treasure. I, on the other hand, side with the majority opinion — that as far as Forrest is concerned, chest, treasure chest, Indulgence, Tarzan, and bronze box all refer to precisely the same thing: a 42-pound treasure chest (that may or may not be 12th Century) — pictured in TTOTC and elsewhere — secreted by him somewhere in the Rocky Mountains north of Santa Fe, NM. I don’t think the Byrd Naturalist cabin has anything to do with the Chase, and therefore I have no interest in visiting it, let alone take a picture of something there for dubious reasons.

    Since you think the gold and the chest are two different things, may I ask why you care about the latter?

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    1. zap- because the “latter” (chest) is the chest mentioned in the poem and the poem instructs the searcher to take (a photo) of this chest and go in peace. the chest mentioned in the poem is not the bronze box. IMO

      Forrest stated goal in all this was to get children and families off the couches and video games and into the great outdoors. what better way to do this than to write a book and poem worded in such a way as to cause the reader to believe they are searching for hidden gold in the wilderness? and in order for this treasure hunt to last a thousand years is to not hide an actual treasure chest at all, rather make a fun game of it by “hiding” a simple wooden box in plain sight in a museum display.
      i think.

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  11. Bob: sounds to me like you’re suggesting Forrest is a liar. You’ve seen pictures of the bronze chest before he hid it, and he has told countless people (including Doug Preston and Irene Rawlings) that he hid THAT chest, full of gold, in the Rockies. The man is not going to tarnish his considerable legacy by ending on such a sour note. Keep in mind that 5 people have died looking for THAT treasure — not for some wooden prop in a museum diorama. If the whole thing was a ruse to get people off the couch and out enjoying the wilderness, I think it’s safe to say he would have come clean the instant the first person lost their life.

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  12. zap- no i am not saying forrest is a liar. in fact, i have stated he is too honest to be taken seriously…lol
    like he says in TTOTC…”the story of the treasure chest is true”
    yes, the bronze box does exist.
    yes, the treasure does exist.
    and yes, the chest does exist.

    the bronze box is exactly what FF says it is. a bronze box full of gold and jewelry.
    the treasure is the great outdoors, anywhere the poem leads.
    and the chest of the poem is the wooden box at the Draper museum of natural history. in TTOTC forrest says following the poem precisely will lead to the end of his rainbow and the treasure. he doesnt say bronze box. and this sentence alone will free him of any guilt associated with any searcher dying from looking for the bronze box….he never said the poem would lead to the bronze box.

    i think, one needs to understand each of these and then apply this information to every word, thought, or reply to any of Forrest statements outside of TTOTC.
    many have discounted my thoughts as irrational because of what is written inside the dust jacket on the cover of TTOTC. it has been assumed that forrest wrote the commentary inside the dust jacket on the front cover and rear cover. but, if you read carefully, the dust jacket writing first the front cover and then the back cover combined as one long statement, you can then assume that forrest was not the author of that commentary it was someone else. and this someone else like everyone else,has mistakenly assumed that unlocking the clues would lead to a personal fortune. wrong.
    IMO

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  13. Bob, you still haven’t explained your own methodology for actually *finding* Forrest’s gold-filled treasure chest which he DID hide in the Rocky Mountains. Nobody cares about that wooden prop in the Draper museum. You theorized that the poem instructs you to take a picture of that (and presumably send said picture to Forrest). You did that … years ago, perhaps hopeful that that was the next step in getting a clue from Forrest about the *true* whereabouts of the treasure chest. I’m guessing that didn’t pan out for you.

    You write:

    “in TTOTC forrest says following the poem precisely will lead to the end of his rainbow and the treasure.”

    If the great outdoors was the treasure Forrest was writing of, no poem would be required, and the word “precisely” in this context carries no meaning: natural treasures are everywhere.

    I was going to point to the book’s dust jacket as counter-evidence to your claims, but you’ve done the work for me:

    “many have discounted my thoughts as irrational because of what is written inside the dust jacket on the cover of TTOTC. it has been assumed that forrest wrote the commentary inside the dust jacket on the front cover and rear cover. but, if you read carefully, the dust jacket writing first the front cover and then the back cover combined as one long statement, you can then assume that forrest was not the author of that commentary it was someone else.”

    Here you are quite mistaken. Forrest wrote it. How do I know? Because there are hints secreted within that text using precisely the same technique he used to hide hints in all three books, the Scrapbooks, Six Questions on Jenny’s, and the Q&A’s. You don’t see them because you haven’t solved WWWH, and you won’t find them until you do.

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  14. zap- i never said to take a photo of the chest at the draper and send it to Forrest. i said to take a photo and go in peace. just like the poem says. take a photo of the chest at the draper and leave the museum laughing to yourself thinking…”what took me so long?”

    in my opinion zap, you and everyone else involved are making this too hard. you are thinking too much and too deep. keep it simple and think like a child…remember forrest said his mind is at about 13 years of age.
    (TTOTC preface)

    where warm waters halt is the Buffalo Bill reservoir west of Cody.
    the road from the reservoir to Cody is the canyon down, too far to walk.
    then the Byrd naturalist cabin is the home of Brown. …simple stuff man.

    by all means though, please keep tromping around in the woods zap looking for that bronze box….because this is what forrest wants you to do. dont visit the Draper.

    i think.

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  15. Bob, can you reconcile your thoughts with these words from Forrest:

    “When the idea of creating The Thrill of the Chase first came to mind, I had hoped I would be able to inspire a few adventurous people to go search for my treasure chest, a chest filled with antique gold objects and precious gems. I felt confident there had to be other mavericks out there in the world, who like me, loved the thrill of the chase and would take up the challenge I made in my book, Too Far to Walk:

    “The dare went out to everyone who possessed a sense of wanderlust; study the clues in The Thrill of the Chase and thread a tract through the wiles of nature and circumstance to the treasure. If you can find it, you can have it. I warned that the path would not be direct for those who had no certainty of the location beforehand, but sure for the one who did.”

    That first sentence is unambiguous as far as which chest he’s talking about, and what’s inside it.

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  16. zap- you only reinforce my thoughts here.
    i understand your confusion from reading Forrest’s words outside TTOTC and the poem.

    but, what does the poem say? (about a “chest”)

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